Compsand Community

[dougirwin13]

Like the subject says, issue 3 of Drift Magazine is now available from http://www.driftmagazine.co.uk.

And, on a personal note, I'd like to extend a "job well done" to Mark of Pure Custom Surfboards for a sweet article on his Compsand boards that runs from pages 66 through 71.

Sweet as Mark!

[paul cannon]

good one mark
awesome

[surfer_dave]

Cool!

I didn't know Drift! Great stuff!!

[mark venn]

Thanks guys,
Since that article, I have got my hands on some of the greenlight bamboo fabric and am currently doing some test panels.  I will keep you posted.
Mark

[Bernhardt]

Aloha Mark!
Re: the cloth

we glassed an 8' bamboo egg with the stuff over a month ago
it ended up milky (obscuring the bamboo and mango nose/tail blocks) as well as being quite heavy.

I don't know if we did something wrong by glassing it like we did regular glass with the pour on squeegee around technique. maybe just lightly brushing or rolling it on with the roller they sell would've made a lighter lam.  Seems to come out as heavy as a  6-8 ounce glass job with just one layer of the bamboo cloth.

Also we found a cheaper source (about 1/3-1/2 cheaper per yard) for the bamboo jersey but we haven't tried it yet. We have 3 more woody woodpeckers(woodskins) to finish and glass but we don't like the milky look over the wood. We'd rather use this cloth straight over a biofoam, EPS or a yellow corecel skinned creation.

Let us know what you find out
or if there are any tricks you learn..

Oh that double stick tape thing is a challenge to do by yourself
but it works pretty good with that cloth.. 

Brian over at Greenlight has been pretty cool to work with
he reminds of the guys over at probox..
really customer focused..

We've been looking at his custom bamboo rails and been wondering if we can give him the proper specs so we can try them as single rail bands in place of balsa or as perimeter rails border by high density foam rails.

Congrats
beautiful work shown in the mag...

[mark venn]

Thanks for the props Bernie, I just did a small test panel over some balsa.  Milky looking and soaked up a load of resin.  Prolly better if vacuumed, but at the moment I am reluctant to sheath a whole board with it due to the added weight although I would love to see what it would do to the flex.
Mark

[Bernhardt]

Mark
the 8' bamboo hull we made out of blue dow came out heavy and ugly because of the milkiness over the wood. We also lost most of the rocker when we bagged on the deck with no bottom rocker support.

Funny part though to answer your question
the board had some decent flex to it even though it ended up pretty flat.
the flex kind of helped out on take offs to prevent the nose from pearling

I'll try and post some pics later of how it ended up looking..

There's a funny story about how I ended up with a 6 inch wide piece of 2" beige masking tape stuck under the cloth right in the middle of the deck that I could not see until I poured the epoxy on it and the sides were all taped down tight.. ended up trying to cover it up later with a graphic patch

bagging the glass with some perf release and blotter sounds like an idea. the glass won't move since its taped down tight all around the rails on the opposite side. Probably could suck out half the resin absorbed in that glass.

[Benny]

Do you have to tape it, or would Super 77 hold it in place?  If so, and then with perf & absorbent, it might be a good infusion candidate. 

My feeble experiments with infusion panels & outer glass bagging always seem to lead to wrinkles in the cloth around the compound curves.  But the stretchy bamboo and spray adhesive might solve that...

[mark venn]

You might be onto something there, I have enough to do some more test panels, loads to try out as I would really like to use the stuff on my boards, but so far it doesn't seem anywhere near as user friendly as good ol 4oz!

[Bernhardt]

Do you have to tape it, or would Super 77 hold it in place?  If so, and then with perf & absorbent, it might be a good infusion candidate. 

My feeble experiments with infusion panels & outer glass bagging always seem to lead to wrinkles in the cloth around the compound curves.  But the stretchy bamboo and spray adhesive might solve that...

if anyone's interested I can email you  a short 30 second video clip that Brian sent me showing how he tapes up the bamboo cloth for glassing. It was before he made the DVD's. I think I was one of the first guys to buy the cloth from him back then..  I tried to load it but it would not convert to utube for linking.

it's a little over 1MB in size..

[dougirwin13]

I'm interested

BTW - you dropped a closing brace on your post.  I put it in for you.

Cheers!

[Bernhardt]

just a heads up on the impact of the bamboo cloth over wood.
I thought this showed the impact of the opaqueness on the wood finish quite well
might go well over the top of some yellow corecel skins or that yellowish biofoam product.
just a warning if you're planning on using it on a wood skinned board

[Benny]

Worth 1000 words, at least.  Thanks 

[surfer_dave]

What about using the bamboo for inner glass?

[Kit Sidwell]

I'm hoping they will bring out lighter weight cloth some time.
Then i'd be all over it!

Does it stay looking as milky as that even after the hotcoat?

In a thread on sways I remeber inquiring about the cloth weight, and the green light guys said it was about a 6oz.
Thats just a bit heavy for me.
It may be a lot clearer over wood if it was a 3oz cloth.

It would probably make a great board if you were not doing sandwich construction, just glass an EPS blank normally.