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Jarrod
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« on: January 25, 2009, 02:53:47 PM »

I had the unfortunate experience (not to be repeated) of ordering my balsa from Nationalbalsa.com.   I had grown accustomed to straight and even balsa, so I was more than a little pissed when I got my order and fully half of the sheets I recieved were so warped as to be completely useless.   On top of that, the width of these "3 inch" sheets varied as much as 1/8", further complicating the process of laying them together to make skins.

Rather than let them all go to waste, I figured I'd try to get them all even and straight, even if that meant losing some overall width.

I made a simple jig using a flat chunk of plywood and some 90-degree pieces I cut from a 2x4.   Very low-tech stuff.   I attached the  90* corners with a single drywall screw drilled in at an angle.   The holes through the corner pieces were oversize so the threads of the drywall only grabbed the plywood underneath.   By angling the screw, it supplied clamping pressure as it was tightened down.   I could then easily loosen and tighten my "clamps" with just a couple of turns of a screwdriver. 

Here's what the balsa strips looked like before working them over.   Like I said, so warped as to be useless.



So, I clamped them in and sent them through the thickness planer until all the edges were parallel and straight.   I discovered that the pressure of the roller in the thickness planer would actually press out some of the warp as it the wood passed through.   Then it would spring back as it came out the other side, leaving much of the curve as it was when it started.  I got past this by making sure the balsa strips were clamped firmly together, by taking shallow passes, and by placing the warped sheets with the direction of the curve in such a way that the ends were higher than the center when doing the first side.   It seemed to have less tendency to press the curve out that way.

Here's the first side done.


After the first side is flat and indexed, I just loosened my clamps and flipped all the balsa strips over.   In this step, it is very important to make sure all the sides that were just cut are firmly against the plywood base.   That's the only way to ensure the sides are parallel, so I took extra care to make sure everything was flat.

Once they're clamped in again, just send them a few more times through the thickness planer to flatten the second side.    Since I was doing several batches, I watched my ruler on the planer carefully to make sure they were all coming out the same width on the final pass through.




The final result, some still have a little bit of warp to them, but nothing that can't be worked out as the skins are being laid up.  They're certainly a hell of a lot easier to work with than when I started.



I think this could also work using a hand-planer, it would just require a steady hand and close measuring to make sure successive batches all came out at the same width.

I hope some people find this useful.
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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2009, 05:00:27 PM »

Thats a lot of balsa, don't wanna waste that!
Nice solution, once again, i'm jealous of your workshop  Cheesy

I've done it the slow way with a long straight edge and a knife - it is slow and scrappy.
Also by stacking up sheets, then running the router along the straight edge - faster but fiddly

If you have a buzzer (bench planer) you could run them all over that, but of course the two sides wouldn't be parallel.
I think you've got the best solution there mate.
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2009, 05:10:03 PM »

I know of folks who redo the edges like this with power tools and a template peice clamped along each side (bows again).

I think yours is the best approach I have seen to date tho.  Very innovative and works well for minimal warping.

Now if you can tell me how to get propellar twist out of hardwood staves...  Steaming and "untwisting" is a nightmare I dont care to repeat.
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2009, 06:35:59 PM »

jarrod, your  genius mate! thanks heaps for posting this. i have a crap load of wood sheets that are uneven  like that. thought i was gonna have to use it all for centre stringered old sckool boards.

just have to get a thicknesser now  Grin

shannon
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2009, 09:13:19 PM »

You could build one...  There are plans on the net.

I can post a link tomorrow if you like.
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2009, 09:16:49 PM »

I am in the middle of designing my thickness sander.
This will be an interesting one, we should swap notes!

A sander is way better for what we are doing, and much much easier to build.
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2009, 11:19:10 PM »

doug/kit

thats a good idea, i will do a google and see what comes up. but if you could post a link doug that would be heaps great.

cheers
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2009, 08:35:28 PM »

The one I keep meaning to build is the thickness/drum sander.

I took me hours to find the plans originally.

Now they are all on page one of Google (go figure).

In the order of my personal preferance:

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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2009, 09:43:50 PM »

Thanks doug!

they are awesome. shuld work very well with what we do huh.

thanks again
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2009, 10:12:13 PM »

Wow!  Coooooooool projects!

So, with a home-made drum sander like that, what controls the feed rate?  Do you just shove it through?   What's the advantage over a thickness planer?  Is it just that it won't blow the wood to bits when you get it really thin?

Cool stuff, for sure!
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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2009, 11:46:04 PM »

I was thinking hand-feed.  But you could certainly add an automated feeder to this kind of design without too much trouble.

Main advantage I can see over a thickness planer is probably finish and price to build.

Guess I am just a bit of a geek who always wanted to mill his own timber Cheesy
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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2009, 04:57:11 AM »

Yeah, i've looked into this extensively.
Just trying to find the time and money to build it now.
A drum sander will be easier to build (how the hell would you do planer blades?), give a better finish, and sand more delicate wood.
I'll post pics as I build.
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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2009, 10:08:09 AM »

Sorry to resurrect such an old thread, but I fixed some warped sheets yesterday the cheap and simple way and am eager to share  Smiley

I don't have a stationary planer. What I did was pretty simple, a used two straight planks of spruce and a few clamps. The spruce planks where about 1/4" narrower than the balsa planks. I just clamped the balsa (3mm, about 10 sheets at a time) between the spruce planks making sure the spruce planks was level, then hand plane the balsa down to the level of the spruce planks. the blade is rounded off a bit so it didn't catch on the spruce planks. Last mm or so I sanded down. Flipped the clamps to the other side, did the same thing there. A little elbow grease, but it worked like a charm. Took a ridiculous amount of warp out of the planks.

There is something soothing about those looong balsa shavings curling up from the handplane. Good for your mental health.
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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2009, 06:15:45 AM »

Too right Soulvoid

Very therapeutic balsa shavings - mine go off to my kids after school programme for craft work - they love it too.

Karl
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